Morality as we know it is a subset of iterated game theoretic optimization for large group cohesion in non-eusocial organisms. Its real and emergent in the same way laminar flow of fluids is real and emergent from fundamental quantum reality.
We feel it in our bones because we emerge from the same stuff. Ironically, Plato had it the other way around. Reality is a holographic projection of a 1 dimensional object (Wolframian hypergraph theory). The shadow/projection is whats "real", the sun outside the cave shines on a barren wasteland of 1D mathematical chaos.
@QuantumTumbler Oh I'm agreeing. If a split brain human has such interesting phenomenology associated with it, imagine how much more there is to discover with other architectures. Although maybe it's that interesting because it wasn't "intended" behavior.
Given that AGI needs access to reality beyond the current Turing-Church paradigm it is clear that AGI will not be achieved by the current Turing-limited technology. We need to go beyond Turing.
You laughed when the communist e-girl asked you what job you wanted after the revolution, but now she's the only one that's emotionally prepared for the post work singularity
There is a point in a man's life when he needs to reject immature behavior from the women he loves, and to become totally intolerant of it. Some of these women will respond as though they have been betrayed. They'll become enraged, vengeful and falsely accuse him of all manner of horrible things: Sexism, misogyny, often much worse. Many guys don't have the stomach for this, and therefore never mature past this point. They fail to see that this hysteria is also immaturity that they need to reject.
Men that successfully navigate these shoals find that, in the space left by the immature women who abandon him, mature women soon appear. Women who admire his backbone, with the courage to be accountable and hold him to account. Women who understand that they can bring out the best in the men they love, and that men can bring out the best in them. Women who prefer growth to comfort, and being real to being ideal.
At no point in history has the development of masculinity required misogyny, or a rejection of femininity, or hatred toward women. Masculinity is the rejection of immaturity and movement toward what is actual, what is real. In a man, this produces certain archetypal symbols and dynamics that we call "masculinity" and confuse for the thing itself. But the thing itself is nothing more than a dogged preference for reality.
@echantech1@jaynitx Literally caveated in the post. Bezos literally says hes known the guy 20 years and trusts his judgement enough to take a chance on him
@0kc0mput3r451@OakfieldSzn@bunniestx It's true. You also see it in people with circulatory compromise so either it's normal or the dude is deathly sick. No in between unfortunately ๐
@OrevaZSN And itโs not naivety, itโs a choice. Cynicism is easy, anyone can do it. But deciding to stay soft in a world that keeps giving you reasons not to? That takes real strength. The people who still point at the moon are the ones keeping something alive in the rest of us.
Major problem for the ominous โsurplus of angry young menโ posting is that, historically, they had no outlet but the physical world
Now we can just shove them into a virtual porn-video game-gambling hole and they never come out of it
@tenobrus And I think that's another confounder. For all our high ideals, we assign moral standing to other minds mostly when we have to. If they can't or won't push back against moral mistreatment, it erodes our intuitions that they're "real".
Society will self-correct / equilibrate. We saw it with woke. There are many more historical examples.
Even now rejection is ramping up. The remaining question is if the Overton window shifts before AI gets good enough that we can't tell anymore.
I think so. We are one or a few breakthrough architectures before the techbros realize their wildest AI dreams. Transformers are just an intermission. AGI will be a different breed in a very literal sense.