There are a lot more climate and environmental protection success stories than most people know. Ozone layer hole is shrinking, acid rain and smog are way down, water is cleaner.
I think it would help environmental advocates to focus on these more instead of always dooming.
I would urge everyone to pay more attention to liberal versus illiberal, coercive versus non-coercive, and authoritarian versus anti-authoritarian as salient divides.
The NY data center ban happens because there are no political consequences for blocking new good things.
When politicians create an occupational license for hair braiders, block new unrealized technology, or act out of some other form of slopulism, their supporters love it because it feels safe. And opponents who understand the real consequences are usually fewer or aren't hit as hard because you can't see or feel the good things and economic activity that would have happened if they didn't do it.
There's no real political downside.
And by the time people realize the mistake - as with blocking nuclear power - they're out of office.
Nobody is immune to this impulse but wish we could select for politicians with foresight and backbone.
incredible that the political consensus of the city keeps being "we should never allow new housing to be built in the Mission, guaranteeing it will get richer and whiter over time" and that is somehow seen as Very Progressive
Every story about rising power bills blames data centers.
Very few mention *why* there is a shortage of power.
Data centers didn’t force baseload power plants to close without any reasonable backfill.
Activists and policymakers - who are now blaming data centers - did.
Everything is so fucking stupid. A) 264B gallons of water is MEANINGFULLY less than 0.1% of all water consumed (golf courses are 10z larger) B) the water isn’t “consumed in ANY WAY - it’s taken out of the source, applied to some heat, and handed right back! Often CLEANER.
It’s kind of funny how republicans were big supporters of carbon taxes as an alternative to greenhouse gas regulations and then suddenly discovered they were against them when democrats accepted their market-oriented solution
New York is imposing a state-wide moratorium on data centers partly because of a moral panic and partly due to energy-cost concerns.
New York has energy-cost concerns because of a prior moral panic about natural gas led them to block pipeline construction from PA.
@gingot1@billybinion To think things get built too fast in America! You need to get your butt back to 2026. Everything takes notoriously long to build because of all the concerns you raised plus all the imaginary concerns. NIMBY strangles our society.
Most data centers use the same amount of water—or less—than an average large office building. Meanwhile, they're helping lower electricity costs by financing new power generation. The hysteria over AI data centers is going to age very, very poorly.
It really says something that non-college and black voters are backing Steven’s while white and college educated voters are supporting El-Sayed.
Black voters remain a hurdle in the progressive left’s goals, and it’s too awkward for them to ever come out and say it.
Some of you are new to the idea of "regulatory capture."
Years ago, PetSmart groomers kept murdering dogs. So the NJ legislature wanted to license pet groomers to stop it from happening. Minimum age would have been 18. Would have done nothing to stop murdering dogs—kids groom dogs without killing them—but would have shut smaller guys and kids out of the market while PetSmart would have been fine. PetSmart supported it.
That's regulatory capture.
"Oh no I'm dangerous, regulate me, with regulations that my competitors can't handle"
Not always, but often regulations that don't address the issue, don't make sense, or aren't needed
@WalterRothbard I think it has more to do with fatigue and hopelessness. I don't know anyone who supports the war with Iran and at the sametime Trump has proved himself invincible to consequences. Also the Dems, at the moment, are overrun with marxist which distracts from Trump as well.
@HearBothSydes@XiPersisted@bendreyfuss If you're implying that is because he's muslim you're wrong. I helped build the mosque in Shoreline Washington during peak islamophobia in 2009. My longtime friend is a Bosnian refugee which is how I got involved with their project. I broke bread with the Iman of that mosque.
@HearBothSydes@XiPersisted@bendreyfuss Rent control is common and it's bad everywhere. It is not unique to Mamdani. I'm a free market Liberal. I believe in stong social safety nets and free markets. I am super critical of my local progressive politicians. I prefer flawed democrats to MAGA republicans. Never Trump.