What is strange about it? China is building out its nuclear arsenal just for us. Its neighbors are quite concerned with its expansion into their territories, and rely on us as a counterweight. China has identified AI as the industry it must dominate in the near future.
We’d treat them as what they are while cooperating like we have with hostile states on issues like nuclear proliferation - USSR style.
@tszzl Nvidia just backstopped OpenAI $250 billion in data centers and $350 billion in GPU's, and you're blackpilling about an AI pause?
The only normal guy in the frontier game is winning and we're all going to make it.
@a_musingcat Lol, "30% below retail prices" where the average grocery store has 2% operating margin.
What he's really saying is he's going to turn more public pension money into potato chips and oreos for people who just want free shit.
50,000+ fake accounts behind proxy networks, with banned accounts quickly being replaced with new accounts continuing the same requests. And the requests all designed to generate synthetic training data for coding, tool-use, reasoning traces, data analysis, etc etc. Also using Anthropic as a reward-model grader.
And Anthropic can map this fake account behavior to Chinese model releases.
Anthropic has presented a strong case with third party corroboration.
The only question is how much of the Chinese models success is the result of this theft and how much is the result of solid work.
@ChrisGPT Everyone worried about open source Chinese models reducing funding for frontier models, but most have ignored that open source Chinese will remove all funding from smaller AI labs.
Ilya has no choice but to move now.
@ilanbigio I struggle with this a lot. But right now my problems are divided into intractable and trivial. And all the trivial ones are one-shotted and the intractable ones burn billions of tokens with little progress.
@eigenrobot Nothing is more true in life than the reversion to the mean.
200,000 of unending horror were our past, and will be our future.
Enjoy this brief respite while you can.
@TheStalwart@genalewislaw@eastdakota This entire open source things appears to be a red herring to drown out the conversation about the gray market firms running millions of fake accounts to enable Chinese models to distill Claude.
@ABarrnette2748@MostlyMonkey You can't even imagine how poor the average person was back then. You saw some tiktok about how the house in Home Alone was average and believed it.
@MostlyMonkey They should rewatch the Outsiders and see how poor people lived back then. The guy with the good union factory job lived in a 700 square foot shotgun house with no air conditioning and a beater car. To show how rich the Socs were they drove a... Mustang.
@wil_da_beast630 There should be a way to weaponize this against the school systems for failing our kids, but half the country just does not care that kids can't read - far more than half in the big cities.
But the problem is multidimensional. You call it open source, but it is only open source for the same reason Meta was, to reduce capitalization of US frontier labs - open source as a financial weapon.
There is zero guarantee that Chinese labs will remain open source, but there is a guarantee that if US labs fall behind, they'll never catch back up. So when China uses access to frontier models as a political weapon, there will be no recourse.
So the question is, do we trust the US with this power or China...
@xwanyex When driverless cars get more market penetration, urbanists are going to be utterly wrecked. They're wrong now, and they're going to be much more wrong in the near future.
@mbateman@TheStalwart Isn't the real issue that "open source" is just a stand-in for Chinese models who gain much of their advantage from a shady network of companies who run millions of fake accounts designed to circumvent Anthropic's IP protections?
Without that network, the issue would resolve?