@HacimRamalla1@JustinTime82313@IndianaBrunner I’m orthodox we don’t believe in the scholastic RC definition. We do however believe the bread and wine turn into the actual Body and Blood of Christ when consecrated on the altar. Do you?
@HacimRamalla1@JustinTime82313@IndianaBrunner You guys completely redefined what real presence means all of the church fathers agreed that the red and wine literally become the body and blood of Christ I can cite dozens of them. I can say Augustine saying this about 40 times.