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@bullard_silas@JacobTh16383814@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon Of course at trial more will be introduced and they have to prove the elements of the crime(s) as well.
The PH is where, as a defense, you would start attacking the confession(s) or providing an alibi.
The question here is why didnโt they do that?
@bullard_silas@JacobTh16383814@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon The purpose at the PH is to prove they have PC.
If they can show evidence that he confessed to someone and that he could have been there at the time then connect some of his property to the area, these three elements are enough to provide PC to take it to trial.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon Nope, take .308 and .30-06. These are two different calibers, but both are in the same .30 caliber category which all have the exact same diameter. The difference in these are the length of the cartridge (which stays in the gun) and the number of gun powder grains.
@sroark2010@baroncoleman Why would this be necessary since she keeps putting out new videos publicly?
Your premise presupposes a conspiracy at TPUSA. If there is no conspiracy what would there be to โhave on themโ?
What if there is no conspiracy and Tyler just did it?
@matt47871@BuffCommander@GmorganJr@baroncoleman@paleochristcon Just watch this one clip.
She believes there is overwhelming evidence that Tyler is a patsy.
This is a claim, she should defend it, or if she no longer believes it she should own her mistake and explain why she has changed her mind.
All evening the Candace Owens people have been saying she makes no claims so she doesnโt have to defend any.
They claim I said there was overwhelming evidence for the prosecution of Robinson which is true I said that so I meed to defend it .
However, Candace did make a reverse claim. She said there is overwhelming evidence Robinson was set up by the feds as a patsy.
So I will take the position that the evidence is more compelling that Tyler was a lone shooter not set up by the feds. She takes the position of her claim, which she says has overwhelming evidence he was a patsy put there by the feds. If she agrees, then we are all set.
How the hell can anybody argue against me here? We both made claims. We both defend them.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon You are correct, but that doesnโt get proved in the probable cause hearing, in the trial they need to prove the elements of the crime. If he was on UVU with his rifle without a reason that proves a lot (but not all) of the elements already.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon As for how they know it came from that rifle, other evidence will need to be brought forward in the trial to connect those dots.
At this point all they had to do is prove that they have probable cause to deprive him of rights for the duration of the trial.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon The bullet fragment could not be linked to that specific rifle. That was inconsistent.
However it was determined to be consistent with the .30 caliber class of ammunition of which the rifle was.
Does this mean the round did come from that rifle? No, but it means it could.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon He could have confessed to many things while questioned by the police, killing CK, leaving the note, taking the rifle to UVU.
I am not saying that he did or that if he did the police have made that public yet. I would expect that to come out in the trial not the prelim hearing.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon I agree that they need to prove the origin of the note, however they donโt need to prove it via handwriting.
If he confessed in the interview with cops that walks them through everything. Then the note simply supports the confession, it doesnโt have to stand alone.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon I agree that saying this gun was used to kill CK is an assertion, but so is saying that it was not.
The evidence at the prelim was enough to prove PC that Tyler killed Charlie. Not the method by which he did, further evidence is needed for that in the trial.
@JacobTh16383814@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon Documented text messages are not hearsay. It would be hearsay if the evidence of the content of the messages would have been a friend of Lance saying โLance told me that Tyler texted him that he did itโ.
I agree that more evidence is needed for conviction, this was just PC.
@zoebekha@NeolithicBarber@bullard_silas@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon The preliminary hearing did not reveal all of the evidence, the burden of proof for this is to establish probable cause, which is a much lower burden of proof to justify the temporary deprivation of his rights while he prepares for trial, where reasonable doubt is the standard.
@bullard_silas@NeolithicBarber@bluspandx1019@paleochristcon Yes the fragment tested less than that, because it was a FRAGMENT. But it tested consistent with the class of .30 caliber.
.308 is the diameter for these, .30-06, .30-30, .30 carbine, etc.
Which specific round are you referring to when you say .30 caliber?