I’m trying to understand what you’re getting at. Is this an argument for universal salvation? I tend to read the “all” as referring to the two groups being addressed, namely Israel and gentile believers who have been grafted in. There’s a lot to unpack in chapter 11, including references to “all Israel” and warnings (for Jew and gentile) about being cut off. Honestly, it’s something I haven’t fully worked out, but I err on the side of needing to have faith in Christ to be saved, since that’s a reoccurring theme throughout the New Testament. Would love to hear your interpretation.
@VeridianZero@shethinkslibrty@GenXChristian60 I’ve read the entire letter many times. I agree Romans 11 is an argument for Jewish priority and I agree that Romans 9 is an argument for election.
@VeridianZero@shethinkslibrty@GenXChristian60 Romans 11 is part of the canon nearly every Christian tradition accepts, so that's the text I'm working from. If you're using a different canon, we're probably not going to find common ground on this.
Both things can be true. Hundreds of thousands are in the streets over rising costs and failing services, and that anger is real. At the same time, some idiots are using the chaos as cover for violence and looting. One doesn't cancel out the other.
@Tsar_Martyr “God absolutely exists” = burden of proof
“God absolutely does not exist” = burden of proof
“I’m not certain, but I think god exists” = no burden of proof
“I’m not certain, but I don’t think God exists” = no burden of proof