@Bouje99@lymanstoneky The baptized child is guaranteed salvation. The children of believers prior to their baptisms are less sure, but we trust to God’s mercy. Those not baptized and not children of believers are as damned as their parents.
@HansFiene A lot of this is grounded in the difference between traditions where the service is the Mass/Divine Liturgy and ones where it is a lecture with music tacked on. If Jesus isn’t present on the altar and the guy up front won’t stop droning on, then why bother having the kids there?
@CatholicEthan The Mass is powerful and a treasure of the Church. That’s why we specifically retained it, as can be found in The Augsburg Confession. What the Swiss and Brits did with it later, well we Lutherans aren’t fans of it.
@lymanstoneky Sitting through a general American Evangelical/Non-Denominational/Reformed service with a three day long sermon drives kids crazy. It’s almost like the Mass is designed to keep the congregation involved and engaged with changes in posture and spread out hymnody.
@lukedsimmons We are just skipping the whole, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me,” thing huh? God’s gift of children is just so inconvenient. Parents should just focus on themselves. In public worship. Without their kids.
@FreeIrishman7@redeemed_zoomer@gavinortlund These are innovations that came out of Rome. 1854 for the Immaculate Conception. Papal Infallibility was declared a dogma in 1870. They don’t have the support of the Fathers in any recognizable way. Lutheranism, at its best, refuses to go beyond what the Fathers would have held.
@FreeIrishman7@redeemed_zoomer@gavinortlund I agree. Let’s do away with the Immaculate Conception, Papal Infallibility, seemingly everything out of Vatican II except the use of the vernacular, etc.
@ProvidenceBelis@nolibertarians They are just so boring and depressing to be around. (Also, the core culture is entirely dependent on what part of the US you are in. I’m a Rust Belt kid. WASP culture took a back seat to Southern and Eastern European culture a century ago. It has helped the food immeasurably.)
@PastorBenMeyer The Hawaii Supreme Court literally used the “Spirit of Aloha” to justify why they didn’t have to listen to the Constitution.
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