Yes I've put my neck above the parapet and suggested functional thiamine deficiency is responsible for the diminishing returns but, everyone will pretend I haven't and then discover it in 3-5 years time.
Imo for the overwhelming majority of people 50-90g/HR will cover almost anything exceeding 2 hours
@NidgeHattersSK This is a dew point of 25โฐc
London's highest dew point during the heatwave was 17โฐc.
Talking about 7-9% performance drop off Vs 2-3%
@raphaels7 You can use all the terribly designed studies (usually fixed at 70% of VO2 max (lol) to try and prove it, but that's not measuring
A) performance
B) the effects of high carb on training load and adaptation - the more important bit
No I'm saying for elite athletes their training load = the glucose disposal mechanism so metabolic health isn't affected negatively, for the general population I'm actually against super high carb fuelling.
And no until we see low carb athletes dominating the Olympics/transport, the position is that high carb is better for performance.
Social media is so weird.
I told folks that shorter races like the 5k/10k aren't limited by glycogen depletion...
And over on threads, folks are melting down...
It's like I said the world is flat...
@nileftist If you're low risk for BSI and it's a short term intervention I don't see why things would get thrown off too much, especially if your other bone health stuff is In place
1) D&K2
2) carb intake
3) melatonin/circadian rhythm
4) heavy strength training
4 more reps than last week, much better controls recoveries were faster too.
Wouldn't say I enjoyed it, but I didn't hate it as much as last week so, that's something.
This was also session 3 of the day.
Bike
Legs/plyos
This.
Modulates NRF2 thus reduces the pulsatile IL-6 signal from bone loading.
Mechanistically acts as a pain modulator whilst shifting the RANKL/OPG ratio in favour or bone resorption.
Now whether Nomio does something different is to be seen, but they themselves claim this is the beneficial mechanism for performance.
I emailed them about this and got no reply.
I could be wrong but the mechanism is well established and is used in their marketing.
The people most likely to take this are also people generally doing doubled too, so even worse imo.
I investigated it when I noticed a good handful of running influencers who where promoting Nomio started picking up BSIs 2-3 months after starting supplementation.
I am aware those are likely to fuck up training load for content and generally are more likely to have poorer circadian health (lots of screen time/poor sleep/perhaps nutritional deficiency)
But I'm very cautious about it.
Plus there's some stuff with the liver glycogen that may or may not be there but might be not really beneficial for health etc, but that's less well established.
Fwiw I think it could be used short term at the end of the peak of a block for a week or so, but I would caution against chronic usage especially in those with Hx of BSI or low BMD
LCHF researchers are humble is the funniest thing I've read all day lmao.
These guys are literally throwing their toys out the pram saying all of the evidence of high carb and performance in the real world doesn't exist and low carb is the best despite 0 world champions on low carb.
- LCHF researchers are humble
- Carb Bros are sore losers
- For years, pasta parties were the standard & we heard keto kills performance
- Keto is fine for performance
- Amount of carbs needed for elite performance are x4.5-9 lower than predicted (i.e. 10-20g/hr, not 90)