@andrewho03 I think you're underestimating the capacity for society to fix itself. Even without AI, humans aren't going to just sit there and do nothing if the world gets worse. There will be change, trailblazers, and violent revolutions, just like what has happened many times before.
@pstAsiatech Americans have little interest, nor even the desire, to understand China. Far more important is what China represents: like the shadows in Plato's cave, "China" is a nebulous shapeshifter, threatening and timid, powerful and weak, everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
@teortaxesTex If only these western economists were allowed to run China... we'd be landing on Mars and living in a post-scarcity neo-liberal utopia by now!
@ChrisRMcGuire Can we stop with this new Red Scare? The US-China trade volume was $500 billion last year. US companies make almost $310 billion a year in mainland China. Stop concern trolling about every little thing and just cut off all trade if you truly care about morality. (Hint: You don't)
@olleaxe@Bluebearmonkey@teortaxesTex You trade your natural resources for goods from people who toil. Oil, iron and lumber don't magically turn into engines and smartphones without economies of scale. There is not much difference between Scandinavia and the Arab states; at least they have a sense of crisis.
@olleaxe@Bluebearmonkey@teortaxesTex The relative abundance of the Nordics is built on the backs of more industrious societies. First the British, then the Americans, and now the Chinese. Do you really think you can keep your "superior" standard of living without those who work more? Truly, 身在福中不知福
@viemccoy This is just virtue signaling. Why would China agree to work with Dario and co., who have the express intent of destroying the Chinese government once they have AGI? Without stepping back from zero-sum thinking all this cooperation talk is just fantasy.
@Miles_Brundage@MarkTMcDevitt Why would anyone view this as a sincere effort for AI safety instead of a clumsy way to try and slow down competitors? Can't even convince majority of tech twitter... how are you going to convince Chinese labs? Wasted effort imo
@teortaxesTex Anthropic models have objectively harmed and killed more innocents through their use in the US military than all Chinese open models combined. All this moral grandstanding just makes Dario even more vile and hypocritical.
@teortaxesTex Americans cannot imagine an altruistic or well-meaning Chinese person unless they are located outside of mainland China. Mental block from decades of subliminal messaging.
@max_paperclips Don't be too hard on these guys. They would literally die if they had to admit Chinese researchers are just as smart and capable as American ones.
@niubi Why don't you put pressure on OAI or Ant to open source their 2nd tier models? US startups would use an open source Opus over a Chinese model any day.
@WestsideLAGuy Every parent in China hopes their kid can grow up to earn gold at the IMO. Every school sends their best and brightest to national talent search programs. Villages throw week-long celebrations when a top scorer on the Gaokao appears in their younger generation. What about the US?
@teortaxesTex@woke8yearold What doesn't make sense is why they would return Fable output to the user submitting the query, instead of just V4 GA output. That's why if there is actual routing going on, the purpose is probably for publicity (bilibili video demos).