Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick

Artist, Wyoming cowboy, sagebrush philosopher, 1689 Immersionist, love my cussed paedo brethren as well, Let'er buck

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@Jonwatsaiki @realnatepatriot @DrJoeBoot Yep, it's obvious that you've never read any of his books or vetted his scholarly credentials.

You should disabuse yourself of your "studied ignorance" & the resulting lack of objectivity by reading his material. It's foolish to dismiss it because of a bias.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@Jonwatsaiki @realnatepatriot @DrJoeBoot So you actually believe he can't be an authority because you believe that he writes for a RW readership? Hmm...& this based on your ignorance & ideology, not having read his books or vetted his credentials as a trained, educated historian... objectivity???

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@Jonwatsaiki @realnatepatriot @DrJoeBoot It's obvious you've never read any of his books that are heavily footnoted from original sources.

[Joseph Boot @DrJoeBoot]

A real expert on Islam dismantles Tucker Carlson & JD Hall’s Islamic propaganda.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@Protestia If they refuse to abide by God's Word which is very clear on this question, why should anyone expect them (proponents of female pastors) to abide by an amendment to their constitution. They are anti Scriptural and will likely continue to act accordingly.

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Former SB & IMB (then FMB) journeyman missionary & SBTS grad writing here. Left SBC in 2010 to become confessional RB, so I don't have a dog in this fight.

Interesting nonetheless to hear Mohler appeal to the 1689 as a standard:

"This motion... makes very clear that we affirm the historic Baptist understanding of the Pastor/Elder/Overseer. The structure of the language I have brought goes all the way back to the 1689 Baptist Confession, where the office and function of pastor are clearly delineated.... [These are] truths consistent with what we believe going all the way back to the 17th century. It is because we believe those Baptists got it right, according to Scripture."

Even with this amendment (should it pass), my guess is that there will be those who finds ways to get around it, if there is no corresponding expectation and enforcement of full subscription to BFM2000, much less the SBC constitution.

The issue is not really about women pastors (clearly, an unbiblical view), IMHO, but confessional subscription. The BFM2000 has holes so large that you could drive a truck through it. Still can't believe, for example, that it never defines the canon of Holy Scripture.

There is a better alternative: Full subscription to the 2LBCF (1689).

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

"When, therefore, after St. Paul... we say that we are justified by faith alone, or freely, or by faith without works... we do not say that faith is a virtue which makes us righteous, in ourselves, before God. For this would be to put faith in the place of Jesus Christ who is, alone, our perfect and entire righteousness."

-Theodore Beza, The Christian Faith, 15.

[Joseph Spurgeon @Joseph_Spurgeon]

I looked through the websites of the churches of the Rio Grande Presbytery. A large number of them listed women on their staff and leadership pages as “directors” and “deacon assistants.” These are long-known workarounds to having women serve in quasi-pastoral or leadership roles. They allow you to say, “Technically, we don’t ordain women,” while having them function very similarly to ordained positions.

One church listed a women’s council right after listing their elders. At least they were kind enough to put the shadow elders’ faces on their page.

This is the same presbytery that just suspended Zach Garris for “unwholesome” speech. I bet they really hated his books on Masculine Christianity and on the Reformed fathers’ opposition to feminism.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@KrohnJr @douglaswils Deborah did not lead the men into battle. She did not take part in the actual warfare. Notice who did though...Judges 4:14-16. Don't confuse the exception of a female Judge over Israel who was given a message from the Lord with a combat role in battle.

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Daniel B. Wallace on his rejection of WCF 1:8:

"I don't hold to the doctrine of preservation. That doctrine, first formulated in the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646), has a poor Biblical base. I do not think that the doctrine is defensible--either exegetically or empirically."

-Perspective on the Ending of Mark, p. 7.

Thoughts: Obviously, I disagree with Wallace's complete rejection of the classic Protestant view of preservation. On the other hand, however, he is a broad evangelical and not a confessional Protestant, so his rejection of WCF 1:8 is not unexpected.

In the end, I actually admire the fact that Wallace has a plain sense understanding of WCF 1:8 and that he unapologetically states his rejection of it. In this way he is like JD Hall, about whom I posted recently.

I don't know of any evangelical man who holds to the WCF or 2LBCF who has offered any rejoinder to Wallace on this. He expands on this in his 1992 article "Inspiration, Preservation, and NT Textual Criticism." But my how eager they are to reject the Confessional Text view when we affirm a plain sense reading of WCF 1:8!

I much prefer Wallace's full and forthright rejection of WCF 1:8 to the approach of those confessional men who reject the plain sense understanding of Westminster preservation and attempt instead to (re)interpret it to fit the modern eclectic method. As I wrote recently, it is like trying to force a pre-critical square peg into a modern or post-modern round hole.

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Just got around this week to looking through the glossy hard copy of the Spring & Summer 2026 IVP Academic Catalogue which arrived weeks ago in my mail box at the college where I teach.

Interesting in light of debates I see here on X about women as church officers in evangelical church circles (like PCA and SBC), and other conversations about "woke-ism."

The new releases featured in the catalogue reflect not so subtle contemporary progressive cultural influences. Here are a a few:

-A Woman's Place in the Story: Seeing Women in the Biblical Narrative by Sandra Glahn of Dallas Seminary where she teaches "media arts and worship" with emphases on "first-century backgrounds related to women, culture, gender, and the arts."

-Allies in Ministry: How Men Can Support Women in God's Mission by Rob Dixon of Fuller.

As the title indicates, this is all about "Male Allyship."

-The Pastor As Midwife by Shawna Songer Gaines, "lead pastor" of Trevecca Community Church in Nashville.

This author uses her "pastoral experience" to explore "midwifery" as "a vision for pastoral leadership." It gets the privilege of being featured on the catalogue cover.

-The Catalogue also features a New Podcast titled "Hear Women," devoted to "Elevating the Voices of Christian Women."

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

John Owen (1616-1683) articulates Confessional Bibliology:

"The sum of what I am pleading for... is, *That as the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament were immediately and entirely given out by God himself, his mind being in them represented unto us without the least interveniency of such mediums and ways as are capable of giving change or alteration to the least iota or syllable; so by his good and merciful providential dispensation, in his love to his word and church, his whole word, as first given out by him is preserved unto us entire in the original languages; where shining in its own beauty and lustre (as also in all translations, so far as they faithfully represent the originals), it manifests and evidences unto the consciences of men, without other foreign help or assistance, its divine original and authority.*"

-Collected Works, 16:349-350.

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Lloyd-Jones on music in worship:

"It is to be accompaniment; it is not to dictate; and it must never be allowed to do so. It must always be subservient. I would go so far as to say that the preacher should generally choose the tunes as well as the hymns, because sometimes there can be a contradiction between the two. Some tunes virtually contradict the message of the hymn though the metre may be correct. So the preacher has the right to be in charge of these matters; and he must not surrender this right."

"Keep the music in its place. It is a handmaiden, a servant, and it must not be allowed to dominate or to control in any sense."

-D. M. Lloyd-Jones, Preaching & Preachers, 267, 268.

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Taylor DeSoto on "Modern Scholarship, Textual Variation, and the Received Text" (May 5, 2026).

https://t.co/jJejE35i2w

[Jeffrey T. Riddle @Riddle1689]

Beza's prayer that the members of his household would confess the historic faith:

"We also beseech you, O Lord, to increase and confirm us in the catholic faith of your church, to the end that it may take lively root in our souls to fructify to all righteousness and good works. And that even to our last gasp we may make like confession thereof, as we do now both with heart and mouth (I believe in God, the Father Almighty, etc.)."

-From Theodore Beza, Household Prayers, The Twenty-second Prayer.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@gxp11 @Thatbrian Now tell me... what really belongs to Caesar? You should reference Matt 22:21 to answer that.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@gxp11 @Thatbrian Using your family as a bulwark against the encroachment of evil is a naive idealism. A husband & father willing to sacrifice their family for that is unbelievable. Lot's "retreat" from Sodom was absolutely necessary. Wouldn't you agree?

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@gxp11 @Thatbrian Tell me, what really belongs to Caesar?? Or better yet, the question is...what are you willing to give to Caesar in order to "appear" to stand against his system, a rule of subsidies, taxes and governmental polices that are inimical to Christian teaching?

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@gxp11 @Thatbrian Are you still paying taxes to support your local and State government by which they use to fund all manner of Socialist anti Christian rot? That is brave and strong...and good for your family. Until you openly, publicly refuse to obey, you are weak.

[Roger Brunk, The Thoughtful Hick @brunk_roge7299]

@Wesley_Todd_ Definitely "girlish". I cannot imagine God singing like that over Israel per Zephaniah 3:17. Something tells me this isn't what one should "imagine" about God the Father.

The feminization of God in & by much of the contemporary, breathy, soft worship music.