As a society, we have a duty to develop responsible, evidence-based approaches to intervene in nature in order to improve the welfare of wild animals. No one deserves to endure being eaten alive, dying slowly from disease, parasites, or starvation. We can and must change nature.
The fact that flesh-eating animals are preying on US cattle is a terrifying failure of public policy. The recent arrival of screwworm flies is also not great.
>There's quite a few people who are very open to the idea that we should radically re-engineer the environment to be more friendly (once tech improves enough to do it safely)
@vgr "Wild animal suffering" is the usual (very googleable) effective-altruist buzzword for talking about this. There's quite a few people who are very open to the idea that we should radically re-engineer the environment to be more friendly (once tech improves enough to do it safely)
There's a very significant chunk of vegans, even activist vegans, who regularly, intentionally purchase animal products, and I don't mean e.g. bivalves or similar cases.
They suffer from cognitive dissonance even more than the average non-vegan.
I find this quite black pilling.
@Lyrimus People act horrified at the suggestion of euthanizing them but not horrified at killing many other animals to feed them. Unfortunately for most people I don't see a current reliable veganic way of feeding them. Especially those requiring "live prey" or whatever.
@Lyrimus Would you feed them human babies? If not, but you'd feed them mice babies, insects, etc., you are still harboring internalized speciesism. You tell me, is it ethical for me to kill a human baby every month to feed my pet alligator? Euthanization is an option, I guess. (cont)
@OctaviusGilmour Notice you didn't list the supposed nutrient they can't get? That's because you're speaking out of your rear.
https://t.co/XZCo5MVWsl
Obligate carnivore doesn't mean they can't get all their nutrients veganically. It refers to how they get their nutrients *in nature*.
@Joker_of_Zero He has previously claimed it's compassion-based, though he's done other things like taking collagen and selling animal products in his delivery meals.
I met Kate’s parents.
It was a nail bitter.
We landed after 24 hours of travel and immediately went to her mum’s house where the family congregated… her mum, dad, auntie, three cousins, sister, brother-in-law, a 3-wk old newborn, brother, and soon-to-be sister-in-law. There were 15 of us crammed into a living room.
Upon arriving, someone said “oh I know your content from X”.
Blood drained from my face. Nobody could tell though because my face is already pretty pale.
Her dad and I hit it off. We cracked macadamia nuts from his tree, used an electric saw to open a coconut, and spoke about being carried as a baby by his 14 year old brother in the Bosnian snow while a German shot at them with a machine gun.
Her mother, also from Bosnia, needed some time to warm up. That’s reasonable. I understand. I’m a bit unusual. She’s soft spoken, careful with her words, and protective of her daughter. A few days in and I began to worry that I may head home with an undecided verdict.
I decided to live in her mum’s world. I ate everything she prepared, including meat, bread, and pasta, and embraced the discomfort of being an introvert in a week-long marathon social interaction with the entire extended family.
We spent time in her garden and she fed me stevia leaves, peppers, celery, chives, peanut berry, grapefruit, and starfruit.
Growing up, my mother and I maintained a garden together. I loved tending to it daily and it felt good to be back in the soil. Spending time with Kate’s mum motivated me to grow a longevity garden.
Our shared love of gardening was the first big breakthrough.
What really sealed the deal was when I interviewed Kate’s mum for an hour on camera, covering her upbringing and life and learning more about Kate. Somehow that format allowed her to see me more clearly than a generic social setting.
I think she came to understand and trust my devotion to Kate.
In the final hours before my departure, she was radiating with warmth. The entire family had gathered for a meal and it was laughter and teasing all around.
My love and respect for Kate deepened. I spent time going through all of her childhood things, helping me see and understand her with greater depth. More on this later.
It feels nice to be part of the family.
"B-b-but Mittens needs to eat animals to survive1!1!1!!1!"
Even if this were true, the animals you killed needed you to not kill them to survive??? How did you decide your kittys life is worth many other animals lives? Are you not engaging in the same speciesism etc. you condemn?
@AaronBergman18 Clicking a FB ad & giving them your phone # is begging to be spam called. Natural selection atp. I know someone who had the same experience but it was a job application type of ad. I had warned them not to give any info to anyone on FB. They paid the price with endless spam calls
Just eradicate the screwworm across the world. It will reemerge no matter what as long as it isn't fully eradicated. This is a global issue, is relatively "easy" to solve, and we already know it would have no negative side effects because it was already driven extinct locally.