@MKBHD You're going to move the goal posts again aren't you?
"It's geofenced so it doesn't count"
Stop being a pussy. Not a good look my man.
Your hair grows back in months. Your reputation sticks with you for life.
Don't be a pussy.
Tesla has just officially announced that select customers are now being invited to purchase Cybercab for personal use!
• Price: $29,990
• $1,000 non-refundable order fee
• $299/month autonomy subscription required. one mont included
• Deliveries start Dec 2026
It's happening!
@Aaron4kid@TeslaBoomerPapa Tesla has real growth in Optimus and Cybercab. All of SpaceX opportunities are all 5-10 years out.
The terrestrial compute projections are pure fabrication so Elon can merge the two companies. Bookmark and revisit in a year.
@Aaron4kid@TeslaBoomerPapa Starlink is such a niche product. Yes I am sure it will be great in 5 years but for now it's irrelevant.
SpaceX ARR is built on their terrestrial compute growth. It's all a bridge to space compute. Elon wants compute to be space based, so we will see a hard pivot.
@optionscjp A combined business especially with these two companies will have so many opportunities and synergies.
Also, $TSLA shareholders will should receive a premium if they’re giving up the growth realization of Robotaxi and Optimus.
@carnivoregymguy@MentoviaX Because they won't give up voting power for nothing. Also you need 50% of all votes, not just those who voted, so any retail you can get helps.
If you don't think there will be a premium you are delusional.
@Aaron4kid@TeslaBoomerPapa SpaceX revenue growth is all smoke and mirrors. Best case we get space compute in any meaningful capacity by 2033. Terrestrial compute will be abandoned as soon as the merger is done.
On the other hand robotaxi is ramping today and Optimus is a 2027 story.
@Hazy19L@TomerHacohen@SpaceX Not a good comparison. MRVL + Lite were not controlled by the same person and relative scale and synergies are different.
SpaceX has had a huge run and Elon is BS'ing about the growth to get the deal done.
SpaceX shareholders would be lucky to get robotaxi + Optimus revenue.
@Hazy19L@TomerHacohen@SpaceX Tesla is trading below the 2021 price and 20% below all time high. If you think there is a 30% premium baked into the stock you are delusional.
It's obvious Elon wants this merger done and soon. The vote will never pass unless the offer is at least ATH and Elon knows this.
Thanks to @TeslaBoomerMama for this beautiful table.
That 4.0 row with $TSLA at $591 is the most likely ratio.
50% Premium - Elon promise to TSLA holders ✅
51% Ownership - Tesla was the first to go public ✅
33% Elon Stake - Reasonable Skin in the Game ✅
74% Voting Share - So that Elon cannot be ousted ✅
I think 4.0 is the right number every way you see it!!
How will SPCX acquire TSLA in an all-stock deal but with a floor price?
Here is what the deal structure looks like: SPCX will announce the acquisition as a stock ratio, corresponding to a market cap ratio. For example, 3.1 SPCX for 1 TSLA, which roughly put TSLA market cap equal or slightly below SPCX market cap. But how should the floor value work? The deal format will be: SPCX will guarantee the minimal TSLA price of, say, 500, at the time of deal close. What does it mean? At the time of close (which likely one year from now), if SPCX is trading below 161, SPCX has to buy TSLA at a higher ratio above 3.1. For example, if for the entire year, SPCX is unchanged at 140, then SPCX has to pay 3.57 shares for every TSLA share. If at the time of close (roughly one year from now), SPCX is above 161, then it will acquire TSLA by issuing 3.1 shares for each TSLA share.
How will TSLA stock react? When the acquirer SPCX makes the announcement, TSLA will jump to 500 with some discount, say, 480, ie, $20 risk spread. If SPCX moves above 161, TSLA will move together with SPCX at 3.1 ratio (every $1 SPCX move, TSLA will move $3.1). Then when TSLA shareholders vote to approve the deal, the spread will shrink to, say, $15. The spread will further shrink when the regulator approves the deal (likely 6-9 months from now), say, to $5. So TSLA stock from announcement to deal close will trade like:
500 - spread, if SPCX is below 161;
3.1xSPCX - spread, if SPCX is above 161.
The spread will be 20 (before TSLA shareholders approval), 15 (before regulator approval), 10 to 0 (after regulator approval). The actual ratio will be at least 3.1 or more if SPCX is below 161 at the time of the deal close.
To recap, the deal will be announced with a ratio (representing a long term market cap ratio: 3.1 would represent roughly 1 for 1 in market cap, or call it merger of equal); and a floor price in term of TSLA stock price (for example, 500). The expected deal close date will likely be announced too. There will not be any cash component involved in the deal structure.
TSLA/SPCX ratio history to today.
@RivianRay@Theo_1517@GrindeOptions The market seems to disagree with your sentiment. If you are right, you could make a lot of money selling the company short or buying puts.