@solosttyear Tbh, I miss fun AUs. I miss creative stuff in the past like Error, Ink, hell even Dreamtale. Most of the current fandom is too obsessed with being canon to ever make those. It's kinda why I am scared to present my own AU(which is just UTAU mixed with Cthulhu Mythos) at times.
@viderchia@Kindred_Chloe0 Tbh, it wasn't even Ayin. It was Manager X. That dude gave himself the Dante treatment but instead of commanding 12 dumbasses with deep rooted issues, he got 12 dumbasses, one AI and an entire facility of horrors beyond comprehension.
@SlothDamage Possibly. Carmen out here literally trying to recreate what he sees as one of his biggest sins(creating Lobcorp). He should at least get a few more mentione.
@limbuslover365 Why are you putting Malkuth dying here? That one was genuinely not his fault. Out Angela there or the whole loops of death or Binah who got a fate worse than death.
@grasblade@huntarproxy@Moritzva2 NGL, need more Carmen and Ayin interaction. Because I need to see how Carmen is so sure Ayin understands everything she does and has such massive trust in him.
@CanOfMilk__ She gave him a draft and tried to commit suicide but its made clear she regretted it near the end. And the smoke war is something Ayin himself could not justify and his treatment of Angela was just him projecting his self hatred on to her because Angela is like him.
@CanOfMilk__ but it doesn't? Carmen may have started that but there is no way she could have ever known how far Ayin would go to complete it. She said it herself, she was weak in the heart to do it. Ayin wasn't. And so stuff like the Smoke War and Angela are still his fault entirely.
@enkephalincel_ Pwie's pronouns are Eldritch/God. And maybe hun/gry. But seriously, yeah Pwie they/them true. I thought they were a girl before but found out it was a translation error today.
@pock_lips_birb@graydachi Carmen's actions in Limbus and LoR does not contradict Lobcorp. It just tells that Carmen broke at one point. Something that was all the way back there in Lobcorp if you just pay attention to Abraham dialogue and the heavy implications there.
@pock_lips_birb@graydachi I mean, sure, if you ignore that the wording used there by Gebura here. Which does not contradict anything Carmen does later on as she is completely and utterly genuine in her convinction to save the City and Humans. She just also got a few screws loose after Enoch's death.
@DantehDrea43630 Isn't Gaster more like Ayin? Like:
* Drives the plot of the sequel/sequel ish game.
* Created artificial being or implied to that being Angela/Ralsei
* Created a script or prophecy and made their creation follow it despite their wishes
* No acknowledgement from their Creator.