@dune_fox903@Book27_@jooniekisser@camliekr You can have two black people from different parts of the world and observe completely different behaviour/culture. Your example is like saying all dogs with black fur are the same. Dog breeds would be more like ethnicity or cultural backgrounds, which aren’t social constructs.
@dune_fox903@Book27_@jooniekisser@camliekr This is not the same thing. A dog breed gives you useful information about the dog. What it looks like, its behaviour, its lineage, etc. It encompasses a lot functionally. Blackness is only one factor: level of melanin present in the skin (1/2)
@mariana287@Devon_Eriksen_ Why? If you just stay, no one dies. This is my exact point. Everyone over analyzes. The real reason you’re pressing red is due to overthinking and mistrust. You may feel free to press the red button, but your original position should be intuitively pressing blue.
Person pressing red: “blue requires coordination and trust”
Also person pressing red: “exactly 100% of people JUST need to think the exact same way and press the exact same button”
Loool
Red looks selfish until you realize: if everyone presses red, everyone lives.
The "cooperative" answer requires coordination and trust.
The "selfish" answer just requires everyone making the same selfish choice.
@VSClive@Devon_Eriksen_ That’s what I said. You’re trying to force the problem to be void of morality. It is a very moral question and it’s why your examples always frame that pressing the red button does nothing. It does do something and that something is the reason why you should press blue.
@VSClive@Devon_Eriksen_ So if we agree active choice is a significant component, we cannot simplify the problem by equating choosing red to “doing nothing”. Trying to force it to not be a moral dilemma doesn’t make you smarter, it demonstrates lack of critical thinking
@VSClive@Devon_Eriksen_ So we can agree that taking action is at the very least a significant component of the problem. Why would you remove it from the scenario? Answer: to absolve moral responsibility. Doing nothing to save yourself is intuitively better than doing something that puts others in danger
@waitbutwhy The only reason someone pressing blue would change to red is if the count was revealed and red was the overwhelming majority. It seems to be the more universally applicable choice as well.
@waitbutwhy I’m not sure if this point is super relevant but people who press the red button become more uncomfortable when different factors are added (family or children involved). If you press blue, changing factors don’t seem to have any effect on the choice