Kykrys

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Mish_K_ Does Greece or Japan have millions of people living without citizenship or equal rights? Did millions of Japanese or Greeks immigrate there over the last century? Did they expel the majority of the local population so that the newcomers could establish their own state?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@KarolusWangus @TopofMurrayHill @johnshreffler0 @ripplebrain Are you sure there are any fighter jets or helos in Iranian airspace to shoot down, rather than just standoff munitions launched from outside?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi You don't include Gaza as part of 🇮🇱, only the WB. So, in your view, a 🇵🇸state could at least have the territory of Gaza, correct?

Bc the math is pretty simple: territory of 🇵🇸 = Mandatory🇵🇸 (in 1948) − Israel.

The first is known. The issue is that 🇮🇱borders are not defined.

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi They weren't citizens before, during, or after Oslo. So Oslo makes no difference.

But the question you're avoiding is this: when a state has two classes of people (one with full rights and another without) and this is permanent, why is that not considered apartheid?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi Your position (correct me if I'm wrong): 🇮🇱border from the river to the sea. Most Pals there do not have citizenship, while Jews have them. This is PERMANENT.

Why isn't that apartheid? Instead of answering, you just responded with a list of disconnected words and no explanation.

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@nesiac @Gersonnice @tparsi You're right. I don't expect to get a good faith answer. But she's so confident that she's right that, by simply asking these questions, I hope to expose the contradictions in her position, first and foremost to herself.

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi You agree that, within what you consider to be Israel's territory, there are two classes of people with different rights.

You also believe this arrangement should be permanent.

That fits the definition of apartheid. Yet you still deny that it is apartheid?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi So, within Israel, there are people with different rights, and you see this as a permanent arrangement (since you oppose alternatives such as granting Pals citizenship, creating a separate state, or expelling them). If so, wouldn't that mean Israel is an apartheid state?

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@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi You didn’t answer the question. You didn’t explain why, if the West Bank is part of Israel, millions of people living there do not have Israeli citizenship.

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi I’m not assuming anything, that’s why I’m asking but you keep avoiding answering.

You believe Israel owns all the territory from the river to the sea, but Palestinians are the majority there. What do you propose should happen to them?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi Before 1948, they lived in the British Mandate of Palestine.

But you dodged the question: if Judea and Samaria are part of Israel, why aren't the millions of people who live there Israeli citizens?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi So you're against both a one-state and a two-states, and you believe Israel owns all the territory from the river to the sea. What, then, do you propose should happen to the Palestinians, who are the majority there? Ethnically cleanse them?

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@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi You showed a territory where Palestinians are the majority. Are you supporting a single state in which Palestinians are the majority and Jews are the minority?

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@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi There are more than 7 million Palestinians living between the river and the sea. If they all had Israeli citizenship, they would make up the majority in a single state.

So I'll ask you again: What are Israel's borders?

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@Gersonnice @nesiac @tparsi If it is from the river to the sea, why people who live there are not Israeli citizens?

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@midwit_retard @flameosumeet @JamesSurowiecki Not a single other team was forced to travel, go through customs on match day, and leave right after the game. None.

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@sporadica @flameosumeet @JamesSurowiecki So you agree that it's unfair, right? Why host the World Cup if you're not willing to provide fair condition?

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@Meli_Kourosh @gbrew24 Because they buy (important) the most of oil?

[Kykrys @gryzt]

@fragermk @BrewerEricM Where have all these supposed partisans been over the last several months?

"Weakened capabilities" didn't translate into something tangible. Are you suggesting the US just keep doing the same thing while the Strait of Hormuz remains closed for an even much longer period?