neutral enjoyer of good footy since 2010. my GOATs are pelé & messi. always learning & love to discuss footy especially with those with tactical understanding.
@altacc822@MihirRMA Cuz we have eyes. The final isnt the only "big game". Messi had 3 campaigns leading ARG, pele 2 (and way better supporting cast). Ofc G/A + winning in finals should count for something but treating it like a spreadsheet... if context doesnt matter then ali daei > maradona
@bdor_msico94019@AbhishekNe95994@NealGardner_ It depends how much u credit the defense. Without messi in R16 and QF they probably lose since they'd have gone to pens. It was a carryjob all the playmaking he did alone in tactical cages, but its hard to compare with campaigns where he's directly decisive (goals)
@uthted06@messianilari I think his contract with miami goes to 2028. I assume thats copa year. Maybe not a coincidence. Its realistic or even planned that he chills in mls for 2 more years (clearly can) and retires after copa
@_Zeets Its all about tactics. If they dont even attempt a certain move its obviously because its not engrained in them in training, nothing to do with their willpower. spain are trained to pass, france are trained to 1v1 which is not as consistent. Best team wins
@AlbicelesteTalk What? The team is visibly wide open, vulnerable, static and passive. That was not the case in 2022 with the same players intensely pressing first touches and helping each other rapidly. I dont know why but everyone with eyes can see
@thierry_ret@Harbpeace Do you think there is favoritism only for argentina or all big names? It's funny, I heard some say before the game that this was a strong ref that couldn't be bought. Who to believe anymore?!
@goescarlos Clear counter, not positional play. Arg players have to retreat from high up the field which is a reason for not being able to defend in the first place. And why should they if its a foul. I understand, its rough, but to say its anything more than debatable at best, is ridiculous
@BaldeWaves Right, i can only hope its bait. You can argue a collection of smaller things / 50/50s are given in arg's favor more often than not. Like messi never getting carded which tbh changes nothing. To think thats proof of rigging (but somehow not for cr7/other stars) is idiotic
@JFfutbol Everything is checked of course. How do you think they'd signal anything to the ref, if they werent actively checking? If the decision is clear they dont take long and that is the case for me. I thought they got everything right today, altho the disallowed goal is tough for sure
@Jiganba3265@appiecule Everything. Despite having the player who walks most, arg won through best intensity & work ethic. Every tactic & interview seemed to revolve around playing for him and getting him to win. Not even for the fans. Sometimes they only mentioned its for him. That translates to games