Americans need to pay attention here. This person was allowed to work in America under an H-1B visa, which is a temporary work visa and not intended for immigration. She has somehow made her way into our government and now claiming she represents H-1Bs instead of actual citizens.
@ASFleischman@wil_da_beast630 Absence of consent but we intuitively understand it is morally wrong. Why shouldn’t women engage in the political process to cause our laws to reflect our moral vision?
@ASFleischman@wil_da_beast630 We’ve previously dealt with sexual immorality apart from rape via law though. The heart balm acts seem to more closely approximate the kind of wrong being perpetrated in the so-called campus sexual assault cases. These cases typically do not involve threat of force or
I hate going into the details of this case but this is worth understanding because the entire internet seems to be ignoring or denying that this entire thing was predicated on the psychological exploit of women's romantic attachments.
The woman in question had a romantic/sexual interest with guy #1. He invited her over and she came. He then proposed a threesome with guy#2, which she thought meant that the two men would engage in gay sex with each other, and her. She agreed.
Later, guy #2 makes out with her but her interest is described as minimal. #2 is the "black guy" and that's who slapped her butt and "commanded" her to snort ketamine off of his dick. Guy #3 enters (it's his room) and they end up in another threesome with him and #2.
Later, more men entered (7 total) and she declined additional sexual behavior. Later again, guy #1 wanted to do it again with her but now with #4.
She is on recorded as having said "what about just you and me?" to guy #1. Text messages confirm that he was her primary interest.
The entire thing is a repulsive disaster but the clearest assessment is this:
1. Guy #1 used her, taking advantage of her drunkenness and her romantic interest in him.
2. Guys #2, #3, and #4 took advantage of the opportunity that #1 provided them.
3. Later, guy #1 then scorned her and then someone exposed what happened, thus ruining her reputation.
4. Feeling taken advantage of, she lashed out in the traditional manner: she accused all 7 men of rape.
Did the woman in question engage in slutty behavior? Yes she did. A central problem today is that modern sexual morality encourages this from all women. This is what women are taught to be today.
Women will get angry at this but... most women are temperamentally agreeable and conflict avoidant. This woman CLEARLY engaged in a bunch of stuff that she was uneasy about simply to be agreeable.
If you know anything about women at all, you know how true it is that women will do things just to be agreeable. The concept of "consent," as men understand it, does not apply to about 85% of women. They'll simply go along to make people happy or keep the peace.
Modern men do not understand this. What does a woman want? Most of the time, it's to keep the peace or to make someone happy. She does "x" act for THAT purpose, NOT because she wants to do that act.
That's what happened here.
This woman wanted to please guy #1, and he took advantage of that. Everyone else involved is a creep but he's a villain. She became a villain when she lashed out at everyone.
Men deny this and claim "women have no agency" or blah, blah, but the truth is that women are simply anchored to the man they're attracted to. If you want to know who a woman is attracted to, simply pay attention to her interests, values, hobbies, and so on, and relate that to the men in her life. If she's dedicated to work, then it's probably someone at her company. If it's running, then it's probably someone at the gym.
Everything that happened to her happened because she didn't want to upset or displease the man that she had interest in. He wanted a porn experience and she gave it to him. Then he threw her away instead of appreciating what she did.
Men will think "why would a man want to be in a relationship with a slut?" What they don't understand is that her being a "slut" was for him.
This is exactly how "pimps" turn a woman out. Most prostitutes are "turned out" by a man that they imagine themselves in a relationship with. They're whoring for him.
This is the central psychological exploit of women: the more romantic interest they have in a man, the more they're willing to do for him.
Modern men are taking advantage of this exploit for casual sex and "porn fantasies."
It's true that women wanted equality and if that is so, they need to be held to the same standard as men. The problem is that women CAN'T be held to that standard justly. It's impossible. The reason is because women's sense of morality is dependent upon two things
1. The consensus/approval of the herd
2. The approval of their romantic interest
If a woman loves you enough, that'll override even the power of #1. This is what a LOT of men don't understand. If a woman loves you enough, she won't care what anyone else thinks.
Modern men deny this because either no woman's ever loved them enough to behave like that OR they did but the man wasted it on something stupid like a threesome.
A woman who loves a man is a powerful force. She'll do anything for him. Use that wisely and it'll make your life. Waste it, and you might never get another chance.
I'm not saying that this woman "loved" guy #1. I'm saying that she liked him enough to sexually debase herself for him. This is what most BDSM relationships are (women doing increasingly extreme things to please a man). It's common behavior. He then failed to appreciate that and scorned her.
And THAT is why so many women are upset. It's not "rape." It's betrayal.
It's what men call "regret."
This is why you're not supposed to "kiss and tell." It's a betrayal. A woman who did "those things" did them for you.
The woman in question was a fool. Then, in her anger, she lashed out and made herself a villain too. Guy #1 (Matthew Ingalls) IS a villain though. He's not a rapist, but he is a villain.
A lot of men deny this concept: every woman is a "slut" if she thinks so will please the man she loves. She'll get a boob job or lose weight or do that kinky thing you like. The reason men deny this is because no woman has acted this way for them.
"Hating the slut" is spiritually Islamic. It imagines women as corruptors. Such women do exist but most "sluts" today are so because they think it's what the men they're interested in want because that IS what the men keep telling women they want.
Women are trash today because you asked for that. Blaming them for it while absolving yourself of responsibility is, again, spiritually Islamic.
But he’s not the antichrist. He’s a warm little baby, with tiny hands and tiny feet, who only want to be loved by his mother. He’s completely defenceless and dependent on her love and he’s being treated as a joke. She hasn’t even dignified him with a real name.
@memeticsisyphus What I don’t understand is why the conversation centers around interventions they need at school instead of removing them from those households. Obtainjng surrogate parents who can love them correctly could absolutely make up for it.
@owenbroadcast My 3 year old has started using the term “track record” as an insult. He heard this phrase once and assumed its meaning (incorrectly). When he’s annoyed he says “you track record!”
@AbbyJohnson Highly recommend reading this piece by Rob Henderson. More women kill their children than women are killed by men.
https://t.co/wSCO9kkuBJ.
All my good relationship stories come from when I was young. Now that I'm old everything has become mostly reasonable
If I could do it over again, I would intentionally optimize all early relationships for story generation, because the value other people get from hearing these stories appears to be much higher than whatever benefit I got from the relationships
It seems zoomers all realized this on their own, which is why they've selflessly reoriented dating around content creation
There is an anti-Cofnas hate rally in Trafalgar Square with ~15,000 attendees. If I were in London there is a real possibility that I would be murdered.
1000s of academics & journalists knew the truth about Jason Arday for more than a year. Now you know why no one said anything.
@wil_da_beast630 Yes this is basically the correct takeaway - intelligence doesn’t confer moral worth so in terms of how you treat people it shouldn’t make a difference, but it’s important to recognize differences so that we aren’t continually trying to correct this immutable disparity
When will people, including the estimable (no sarcasm) @jessesingal get it through their heads? There remains a lot to be explained about the REASON that the means on tests of cognitive ability are different for people of East Asian, Sub-Saharan African, and European ancestry are markedly different, but not the FACT that they are different. There's nothing "purported" about it.
BTW, it's not a mortal sin to use "correlation" meaning "association" informally, but (pedantry incoming) it is statistically nonsensical when talking about race differences. Race is a nominal variable, a test score is a continuous variable. The standard measure of linear correlation, Pearson's r, can't be calculated. (There's point-biserial correlation for binary variables, but when there are several categories... oh, never mind).
Americas Wheelchair population is around 1% and in some of our cities every single private home must be wheelchair accessible as well as businesses. This is an enormous cost to consumers and must be abolished. Stupidity.
The sexual revolution was marketed as liberation for women, but in practice, it liberated men from every obligation they used to have toward women.
Before the sexual revolution, a man who wanted access to a woman had to offer marriage. He had to commit, provide, and prove himself worthy. Sex was reserved for the marriage bed, and this gave women enormous leverage in selecting the best possible husband.
The sexual revolution removed all that. Women were told casual sex was empowering. And men were happy, they could get everything they wanted without offering anything in return.
Fifty years later, women are more sexually available than ever and lonelier than ever. They gave away their only bargaining chip and got nothing except heartbreak and men who see no reason to commit.
The revolution wasn't for women. It was for men.
The strangest thing about boomer parenting philisophy is that they are extreme blank slatists about society’s influence but extreme determinists about their own influence.
“Black kids would be einstein if they weren’t oppressed. But my own kid being a failure is because he is just stupid. Leaving him in daycare then plopping him in front of the TV all day had nothing to do with it”
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And now you understand why I detest socialists. They're all about love and kindness. Until you disagree with them and you discover who these ppl really are.