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[Analytical Taymi @AnalyticalTaymi]

Weak Hadiths are historically more reliable than all western history pre printing press. Dare I say pre camera.

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@3rdDialect @luc1dman @AMoalim05 That's not true, they wouldnt criticize publicly the ruler for mandating it but obeying them in haram is not required and they never said it was

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Its weird the qrt didn't work, im answering to this:

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Good thing that this wasnt the point of the debate and i corrected before your answer. Im still waiting for the refutation about Allah 'azzawajal always acting

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@Linao__ Jeu mort

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@Sakinarium @Espritd0r Et btw j'ai pas supprimé mon post original qui était le point du débat mdrr

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@Sakinarium @Espritd0r .

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

This has nothing to do with the claims i made. No where does al bukhari refutes Allah 'azzawajal always acting here. It only refutes the wording mistake i made that was irrelevant to the debate. "All the claims " lol

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

This has nothing to do with the claims i made. No where does al bukhari refutes Allah 'azzawajal always acting here. It only refutes the wording mistake i made that was irrelevant to the debate. "All the claims " lol

[محب اليوسي @ibnassakir]

Al Bukhari literally refutes all the claims u made here himself unfortunately🤣🤣🤣

He says the action of Allah is His attribute

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Imam Ibn al mubarak rahimahullah:

He said: “Allah has never ceased to be speaking whenever He wills.” Shaykh al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah quoted it in Minhaj al Sunnah (2/383).

[محب اليوسي @ibnassakir]

Funny

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Rather, we say: He has never ceased with His power and His light, not: when did He have power, and not: how did He have power.

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal rahimahullah said in his refutation of the jahmiyyah:

In your madhhab, there was a time when He did not speak until He created speaking. Likewise, the children of Adam were, and they did not speak until Allah created speech for them.

[محب اليوسي @ibnassakir]

Funny

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

then you have said the statement of the Christians when they claimed that Allah has never ceased, and His light has never ceased, and His power has never ceased. We said: We do not say: Allah has never ceased and His power has never ceased, and His light has never ceased.

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

saying:
“And Allah is forgiving, most merciful.”
“He named Himself with that, and that is His statement, meaning: He has never ceased to be like that.”

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

"al bukhari : no"
Yeah lets see:

Imam al-Bukhari said in his book "Khalq 'Afal al-'Ibad" :

"Nuʿaym ibn Ḥammād clearly stated that the speech of the Lord is not created, and that the Arabs did not distinguish between the living and the dead except through action — for whoever

[محب اليوسي @ibnassakir]

Funny

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Also al bukhari in his sahih from sa'id Ibn jubayr from Ibn 'Abbas that a man asked him about His saying:

“And Allah is Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
“And Allah is Mighty, Wise.”
“And Allah is Hearing, Seeing.”

So it was as if it had been, then passed. Ibn ʿAbbas said about His

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@ZouhairsMurid Affirm what my Lord affirmed and i was scared of talking about matters which my Lord didn't talk about.

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

@ZouhairsMurid I dont want to play word games and vicious rethorics with you, we know how you are.

I would be more scared if i was the one who denies that attributes of Allah and when asked why on yawm al qiyamah says because of your own mind.

In the other hand i will say I only wanted to

[kazuhira @peacewalkerr_]

Maybe my wording is incorrect here about the attribute part. The matter is the same