@maxvonhippel@ArjunGuha@GeorgePirlea@krismicinski grind is already an SMT solver and is widely used in Lean; I think tools like that are going to be a big part future developments. The Bitter Lesson includes search for a reason.
@charliermarsh But proving something much stronger, like "Chrome doesn't leak information from other origins to web pages" will require several more big steps forward.
@charliermarsh The most exciting thing is the insight that we can go a long way with just that property -- it's the same insight that makes fuzz testing unreasonably effective, but lifted to formal verification. Probably there are a lot more wins in this direction.
The differences between what has been announced in terms of verification and in math, as well as the wildly different reactions from formal verification people compared to mathematicians, should tell you that this is not true at all.
@JulesJacobs5@HerrDreyer@mathur_umang@AnthropicAI@theoremlabs I mean, I agree that we can't be sure what the models will be able to do in a couple years. But I think the trajectory of programming is more bullish for people than you're suggesting.
@JulesJacobs5@HerrDreyer@mathur_umang@AnthropicAI@theoremlabs I think understanding means two different things here. Wanting to pay human mathematicians because we want humanity to understand math is different than wanting to pay Derek because understanding eventually leads to Iris.