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@relic_radiation ok, that's good to hear. its just I've mainly heard of or know people going from well paid jobs into this sort of thing, because of the high costs of training.

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@relic_radiation Do you know anyone who has made this kind of shift without having loads of money? it seems its only viable if you're coming out of really high paying work with lots of savings or have rich parents.

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@patrickc Like Remission Biome, which organises self-experimentation for ME/CFS and long covid https://t.co/iLE9YsDhyl

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@algekalipso There are pretty much no jobs that allow deep thinking sadly, so if you're not rich its pretty hard. I'm not as smart as that though so maybe if you are it becomes more possible.

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@algekalipso 'How could some concrete piece of the world directly embody to-be-promoted-ness? .. I believe the solution to this puzzle lies in the realization that not only are human beings objective parts of the universe, but so are their mental lives.' Sharon Rawlette - The Feeling of Value

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@juicypreuss @sashachapin This is all about that, vigorous zen training: https://t.co/JLby2orE7j

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@sashachapin Thanks, that makes sense. I think I'm often in neither - just numb, tense, worn down.

And yes, the people I know who make those confident claims switched sides from the other extreme.

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@sashachapin This has confused me a lot because people very confidently claim that you should only do one and that the other is the way to misery and then I get confused about what to do. How do you balance them? I also have both attachment styles so that's hard.

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@alfredoparrah I work in mental health funding at the moment (though I don't control any money). would be great to put together a pain/chronic disease/extreme health suffering funding programme.

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@alfredoparrah Mostly that I can't see how I'd be able to do that as a career, and doing it on the side would be unsustainable. I'd like to work on pain but not sure how to do that.

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@FordP100 @algekalipso This isn't a good approach because it sacrifices truth for meaning when you don't need to, which makes the meaning poorly-grounded and fragile. Contrast with Sam Harris who has both spirituality and an objective moral foundation, yet still is rational, whereas Peterson bullshits.

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@MichaelDPlant @rcbregman @nytimes Heroic masculinity is just traditional masculinity. It always was about using your power to help those who need you. Men didn't always live up to that obviously, but the ideal was there.

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@sashachapin How can you build relational genius? Seems very rare to be able to build it, rather than being a natural.

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@aitch_bar @Meaningness I guess I still want the highest ideal to make sense though, even if I can't reach it. That's why I'm critiquing it.

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@Meaningness why does it seem like Buddhists don't take the boddhisattva vow seriously? I would expect it to lead to something like EA. But at its most ambitious it is about becoming a meditation teacher, or various stories of ineffectual but extreme self-sacrifice.

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@aitch_bar @Meaningness Yes, I think that's reasonable. For me also. There is a useful forcing of "are you actually helping, where do you have the capability to help?" in considering this. So coming out of effective altruism, this is a useful reorientation for me.

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@RogerThisdell What does cluster b look like in a community? I looked up the symptoms but I don't think I've ever seen that, or at least I don't know how to identify it.

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@PrinceVogel Target young humanities nerds that are frustrated at the current system, who immediately will recognise you share their values and want to get involved and build it.

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@PrinceVogel Create a bit of an oppositional vibe to it, as in "we're the new movement overturning the stogy low-quality humanities work". Establish other common field infrastructure around it (seminars, conferences, journals, etc). Find donors who care about this and start a bigger fund