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[That Catholic Guy 🇻🇦 @Catholic_bro]

@TradEngland False

[Patrick Neve @catholicpat]

The #1 religion podcast in the world is a Catholic priest reading the Bible but go off i guess

[Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 @WalmartThomist]

I’ll give an example…the debate over the historicity of icon veneration. 99% of people don’t have the capability to study the sources on this in a clear and universal way.

Of those 1%, 99% don’t have a clear enough understanding of theological method to even make a solid argument applying it to the dogmatic question.

Most people don’t get beyond “COPE PAPIST!!!” or “based Wagner W!!!” when I make a video about a topic like this.

But, when you explain to someone the logic behind icon veneration, they actually grasp it and it benefits them. Positive theology makes for terrible popular content, scholastic theology makes for good popular content.

[Joshua Charles🇻🇦 @JoshuaTCharles]

Every time the Day of Judgment comes up in Scripture, it says the verdict is rendered based on our deeds.

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

Solid breakdown of the agenda:

In KPop Demon Hunters, Rumi is a half-demon idol who loses her voice because of shame over her true nature. Her markings—symbolizing her demonic heritage—spread to her throat and silence her. In a traditional Christian story, this would mark the presence of something unclean, something to be renounced or cast out. Instead, the narrative tells us that Rumi’s salvation comes not through deliverance, but through integration. Her redemption is emotional, not spiritual. There is no renunciation of darkness—only the re-narrating of it as part of her truth.

This is more than a creative twist. It’s a theological inversion.

From a Christian worldview, demons are not misunderstood outcasts—they are rebellious spirits aligned against God. We are called to resist, not reconcile with them. But in Rumi’s arc, the demon is not an enemy—it’s a part of her that needs to be affirmed. The moral conflict is no longer light vs. darkness, but shame vs. acceptance.

This isn’t just a personal journey. It’s a catechesis in sympathy. It invites us to feel for the demonic, to admire its power, and to reimagine the sacred boundary between good and evil as outdated and intolerant.

[Joshua Charles🇻🇦 @JoshuaTCharles]

I am very, very glad to no longer be deceived by this ahistorical, shallow, and hollowed-out understanding of Christianity, that incidentally doesn’t work without completely misrepresenting and slandering Catholic belief.

[Tony Kinnett @TheTonus]

“If only we could find the common denominator of all these horrible corporate marketing decisions!”

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

@FractalAnte @_kruptos Handwriting requires using unique motor patterns (it’s more embodied), which strengthens memory encoding. It also produces more varied sensory input, reinforcing memory (because this richer network activation makes the information “stick” more effectively).

[Bishop @BishopJaxi]

How did so many Protestants get deceived into thinking the Eucharist is just a symbol?

For 1,500 years, no Christian believed that. Even Luther and Calvin rejected it.

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

@factchecker2022 @Protestia John 12:5

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

What a ratio!

Rightfully so though because it’s a very ignorant take.

Aside from the obvious fact that it results in abortions, IVF also does violence to human dignity and to the marriage act.

It eliminates the marriage act as the means of achieving pregnancy instead of helping it achieve this natural end, and it treats children as a means to an end—particularly that of satisfying the deepest wishes of an infertile couple.

Morality cannot be governed or determined by our deepest desires and wishes; it needs to be the other way around.

IVF, like sorcery, attempts to circumvent God’s wisdom and sovereignty.

[Indiana Brunner @IndianaBrunner]

Catholics being against IVF is no more rational than Christian Scientists being against ibuprofen.

[Darwin to Jesus @darwintojesus]

𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐒𝐂𝐎𝐎𝐁𝐘-𝐃𝐎𝐎 𝐅𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐀𝐂𝐘
𝑯𝒐𝒘 𝒄𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒐𝒐𝒏 𝒍𝒐𝒈𝒊𝒄 𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒔𝒉𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒐𝒘 𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒊𝒔𝒎

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

There’s a tremendous amount of intellectual real estate between calling someone “stupid” and acknowledging that a particular concept may be beyond their grasp. The fact that this distinction is being flattened into a binary—either an insult or a compliment—is frankly absurd.

Most people, myself included, aren’t equipped to pass the bar exam or debate quantum mechanics with physicists. That’s not an insult; it’s a fact. But if basic acknowledgment of intellectual limits is now treated as offensive, then we’ve officially entered the realm of weaponized insecurity.

Now to the heart of it: your insistence that my statement must be an insult is not only false…it’s intellectually dishonest. You’re not engaging with what was actually said; you’re projecting offense where none exists, which can only really have the effect of shutting down discussion.

And finally, the argument I referenced wasn’t a casual opinion; it was a well-structured, substantive case. People don’t get to hand-wave something like that away with vague disagreement. If they want to refute it, they need to bring an argument that actually dismantles it. Otherwise, all they’ve got is noise.

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

Most Christians who believe Jesus had siblings aren’t smart enough to follow this all the way through.

And then most of those who are won’t actually read the whole thing and try to say it’s wrong without providing substantive counter arguments.

It’s always and only the few.

[David ☧ @DMStThomas]

THE BROTHERS OF JESUS

As is well known, the New Testament contains several references to the “brothers” and “sisters” of Jesus. At first glance, these passages seem to be the strongest argument against Mary’s perpetual virginity.

They are certainly the most popular reason for thinking Mary had other children besides Jesus. Once again, however, we need to examine this evidence in its ancient Jewish context. When we do so, some of the very passages that mention Jesus’ “brothers” actually present important evidence that Mary did not have other children. Let’s take a few moments to examine the data.

The “Brothers” of Jesus = Sons of a Different Mary

The first and most important reason for concluding that the “brothers” of Jesus are not children of Mary is also the most often overlooked. It is this: The Gospels themselves explicitly state that the so-called brothers of Jesus are in fact the children of another woman named Mary. In order to see this clearly, all we need to do is compare the identities of the “brothers” of Jesus in the account of Jesus’ ministry in Nazareth with the accounts of the people present at his crucifixion and burial.

For the sake of convenience, I will focus on the evidence in the Gospel of Mark, paying close attention to the names of Jesus’ “brothers:"

He went away from there and came to his own country…And on the Sabbath he began to teach in the synagogue; and many who heard him were astonished, saying, “…Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon, and are not his sisters here with us?” (Mark 6:1–3)

And Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed his last…There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome, who, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered to him. (Mark 15:37, 40–41)

On the one hand, the Gospel of Mark indisputably identifies “James” and “Joses” as two of the “brothers” (Greek adelphoi) of Jesus (Mark 6:3). As any Greek dictionary will tell you, the most common meaning of the word “brother” is the same as in English: “a male from the same womb.”

On the other hand—and this is crucial—the Gospel of Mark also provides solid evidence that the same two men, “James” and “Joses,” are the sons of a different woman named Mary. This other Mary is mentioned three times in the account of Jesus’ crucifixion, burial, and resurrection.

At the crucifixion, she is called “Mary the mother of James the younger and Joses” (Mark 15:40). At Jesus’ burial, she is called “Mary the mother of Joses” (Mark 15:47). On the morning of the resurrection, she is called “Mary the mother of James” (Mark 16:1). Who is this woman? Obviously, Mark would never refer to the mother of Jesus as “the mother of James and Joses,” or “the mother of James,” or “the mother of Joses,” especially when he has already referred to Mary as Jesus’ “mother” twice in his Gospel (Mark 3:31, 32).

Although scholars come up with some rather desperate attempts to avoid the obvious, the only plausible explanation is that the mother of James and Joses is a different Mary, and therefore, James and Joses are not the sons of the virgin Mary.

In support of this conclusion, it is important to emphasize that the same thing is true of James and Joses in the Gospel of Matthew (although Matthew uses the proper Hebrew form “Joseph” rather than “Joses”).

In fact, Matthew even refers to Mary the mother of James and Joseph as “the other Mary”! There were also many women there, looking on from afar, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him; among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee…And Joseph [of Arimathea] took the body, and wrapped it in a clean linen shroud, and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn in the rock; and he rolled a great stone to the door of the tomb, and departed. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were there, sitting opposite the sepulcher. (Matthew 27:55–56, 59–61; cf. 13:55)

It is not believable that Matthew would refer to the mother of Jesus as “the other Mary.” Because of this, the Protestant scholars W. D. Davies and Dale Allison admit that this evidence suggests that “the brothers of Jesus” who are named earlier in the Gospel (Matthew 13:55) “were not the sons of Jesus’ mother but of another Mary.” 29 I agree.

But I would add that the brothers of Jesus also cannot be the sons of Joseph from a previous marriage, as some people suggest.30 The reason is simple. For Joseph to be a widower, his wife has to have died. But Mary the mother of James and Joseph is obviously still alive at the time of the resurrection! In fact, when Luke refers to her simply as “Mary the mother of James” (Luke 24:10), a strong case can be made that he must be referring to the famous leader of the church in Jerusalem, also known as “James the Lord’s brother” (Galatians 1:19).

The reason is simple. In the words of Richard Bauckham: “Normally in the early church only James the Lord’s brother could be called James without risk of ambiguity” (see Acts 12:17; 15:13; 21:18; 1 Corinthians 15:7; Jude 1).

This leads us to the important question- If James and Joseph are the children of another Mary, then why are they called Jesus’ “brothers”? The answer is quite simple: in an ancient Jewish context, the Greek for word “brothers” (adelphoi) could be used as a synonym for close relatives, such as cousins. Many examples of this usage could be given.

For now, consider three:

But Jacob became angry, and quarreled with Laban [his uncle]; Jacob said to Laban, “…What have you found of all the vessels of your house? Set it here before my brothers and your brothers, that they may decide between us two.” (Genesis 31:36–37 LXX)

The sons of Mahli [were] Eleazar and Kish. And Eleazar died, but he had no sons, only daughters. And the sons of Kish, their brothers, married them. (1 Chronicles 23:21–22 LXX)

On the same day the sons and brothers of king Izates…entreated Caesar to grant them a pledge of protection. For the present he kept them all in custody; the king’s sons and relatives he subsequently brought up in chains to Rome. (Josephus, War, 6.356–57)

Notice here that it is the context that gives us the clue to when the word “brothers” means “relatives” or “cousins.” In context, Jacob is clearly using “brothers” (Greek adelphoi) to refer to his cousins, the sons of his uncle Laban (Genesis 31:37 LXX). Likewise, in the second passage, the “brothers” (Greek adelphoi) of the daughters of Eleazar are explicitly identified as first cousins, the sons of the girls’ uncle Kish. Last, but certainly not least, Josephus proves that a first-century Jew could use the words “brothers” (Greek adelphoi) and “relatives” (Greek syngeneis) as synonyms in the same Greek text.

Likewise, when it comes to the “brothers” of Jesus in the Gospels, we have to determine the meaning of the word in context. If all we had were the reference to Jesus’ brothers during his ministry in Nazareth, it would be reasonable to assume they were his blood “brothers.” However, if later in the same Gospel two of these brothers, “James and Joses,” are explicitly identified as the children of another woman named Mary, then the obvious explanation is that the word “brothers” is being used to refer to Jesus’ “relatives.”36 If there is any doubt about this, it’s important to point out that Jesus himself actually uses the word for “cousins” or “relatives” to describe his so-called brothers and sisters. Reread the evidence from Mark, this time paying attention to Jesus’ final statement:

“Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon, and are not his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him. And Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor, except in his own country, and among his own cousins (Greek syngeneusin), and in his own house.” (Mark 6:3–4)

The word I have translated here as “cousin” (Greek syngeneus) is from the same Greek root as the angel Gabriel’s reference to Elizabeth as Mary’s “cousin” (Greek syngenis) (see Luke 1:36 KJV, Douay-Rheims). What possible reason can be given for Jesus referring to his “brothers” and “sisters” as his “relatives” or “cousins”? Maybe because, according to the Gospel of Mark, they are his cousins.

Now we could just stop here. If all we had were the evidence from the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, it would be enough to conclude that the so-called brothers of Jesus are in fact his close relatives. They are the children of another woman named Mary from Galilee. But this is not the only evidence we possess.

The Other Mary = Mary the Wife of Clopas

When it comes to the identity of the brothers of Jesus, the Gospel of John also provides an important clue to the identity of “the other Mary” who was present at the crucifixion:

But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home. (John 19:25–27)

This account of Jesus’ death provides us three more significant insights into the relationship between Jesus, Mary, and his “brothers.” First, notice that John identifies the second woman at the cross as “his mother’s sister, Mary” (John 19:25).

Although it’s easy to miss the point, this verse provides important support for the word “sister” (Greek adelph ē) being used to refer to someone other than a blood sister. It seems extremely unlikely that Mary’s parents would have given both her and her sister the name Mary. However, the text makes perfect sense if John is using the word “sister” to refer to a close relative of Jesus’ mother.

Second, and even more important, when John refers to this woman as “Mary the wife of Clopas” (John 19:25), he gives us an important clue to the identity of “the other Mary” referred to by Matthew and Mark. If John is referring to the same Mary that Matthew and Mark say was present at the crucifixion and burial of Jesus—Mary the mother of James and Joses—then we have further evidence that James and Joses are not the sons of Jesus’ mother. Nor are they the sons of Joseph by a previous marriage. Instead, they would be the sons of another man—a man named Clopas.

Third and finally, but by no means least important, in John’s account, Jesus gives his mother, Mary, to the Beloved Disciple to have as “his own” mother (John 19:26–27). I cannot stress the point enough: If Mary would have had any other children at the time of the crucifixion, it would have been unheard of for Jesus to give his mother to one of his disciples. In an ancient Jewish context, to fail to care for one’s aging parents was a grave sin—one that Jesus himself describes as a capital offense (see Mark 7:9–13).42 Thus, the most plausible explanation for why Jesus takes such pains in the midst of dying to make sure his mother is cared for by the Beloved Disciple is that Mary has no other children. He is her only son.

Once again, we could just stop here. If we only had the evidence of the New Testament we’ve just surveyed, it would be enough to confidently conclude that the so-called brothers of Jesus are in fact his close relatives, the children of Mary and Clopas, relatives of Jesus’ family. However, the New Testament is not the only relevant historical evidence we possess. We also have evidence for the identity of Jesus’ brothers from ancient church history—evidence that is often mysteriously ignored.

The “Brothers” of Jesus = The First Bishops of Jerusalem

According to the ancient Christian historian Hegesippus—who was apparently the first person to write a “history” of the Church—two of the so-called brothers of Jesus (James and Simon) also happened to be the first two bishops of Jerusalem.43 Furthermore, they were widely known to be Jesus’ “cousins!” Consider the following testimony from Hegesippus, which is quoted by Eusebius in his fourth-century history of the Church:

The same writer [Hegesippus] also [writes]…as follows: “After James the Just had suffered martyrdom for the same reason as the Lord, Simon, his cousin, the son of Clopas, was appointed bishop, whom they all proposed because he was another cousin (Greek anepsion) of the Lord. (Hegesippus [2nd century A.D.], quoted in Eusebius, Church History, 4.22)

After the martyrdom of James and the conquest of Jerusalem which immediately followed, it is said that those of the apostles and disciples of the Lord that were still living came together from all directions with those that were related to the Lord according to the flesh (for the majority of them also were still alive) to take counsel as to who was worthy to succeed James. They all with one consent pronounced Simon, the son of Clopas, of whom the Gospel also makes mention; to be worthy of the episcopal throne of that parish. He was a cousin (Greek anepsion), as they say, of the Saviour. For Hegesippus records that Clopas was a brother of Joseph (Greek adelphon tou I ō s ē ph). (Hegesippus [2nd century A.D.], quoted in Eusebius, Church History 3.11.1–2)

Amazingly, the testimony of Hegesippus that the so-called brothers of Jesus were in fact his “cousins” (Greek anepsioi) is frequently just ignored by scholars who assert that Mary had other children.46 But in the face of such historical evidence, this is unacceptable. James and Simon, two of the so-called brothers of Jesus, were not obscure figures in the early Church. In fact, they were the first two bishops of Jerusalem and some of the earliest martyrs. More important, they were known to be “cousins” of Jesus. Notice here that Hegesippus’ identification of James and Simon as Jesus'cousins is stated simply as a matter of historical fact. There is no evidence that he is attempting to defend Mary’s perpetual virginity. To the contrary, Hegesippus is simply reporting the history of the bishops in Jerusalem.

Now, if Hegesippus is right, then the earliest historical evidence we possess jibes perfectly with the New Testament evidence we saw that the so-called brothers of Jesus—James, Joseph, Simon, and Jude—were in fact the children of another woman named Mary (Mark 6:1–3 15:37, 40–41; cf. Luke 24:10). It also makes perfect sense if this “other Mary” is the same woman who is called the “wife of Clopas” (John 19:25).

This, I would suggest, is the simplest and most historically plausible solution to the mystery of the “brothers” of Jesus. Again, the best explanation for the ancient Christian claim that the “brothers” of Jesus were actually his cousins.

From: Brant Pitre's "Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary: Unveiling the Mother of the Messiah

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

@PLinMadison Just because someone isn’t smart enough doesn’t mean they’re stupid 😉

If someone thinks it does, I guess by your logic that says more about them than it does anything else…

[Steve Skojec @SteveSkojec]

So many responses like this still coming in from people who have no idea the Bible wasn't written in English, and that the Greek word adelphoi (ἀδελφοί) doesn't necessarily imply literal siblings, and is the same word St. Paul uses when addressing Christians as "brothers."

The worst thing about Protestant exegesis is that it's so often dumb. They'll be overly literal about this, and then look like a fish out of water when Jesus says 1700 times in John 6 that his "flesh is real food" and his "blood is real drink"

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

@SpecterAndBride Sonic II level II IIRC.

[New Christendom Press @New_Christendom]

"Any time you encourage a woman in virtue, it must mean her husband is terrible."
-Very Serious Thinkers

[Uniting Our Prayers @uniting_prayers]

@PeterSilliman Did the person who repented but sometime in the future indulged a lustful thought truly repent the first time around?