@aslaveofJEHOVAH@AbaddonSpeaks "Revelation was written by John. The same John that wrote the gospel."
I don't think so. And if your argument requires this, it now has a big asterisk next to it.
π Arius was actually about 40 years older than Athanasius, so this is a weird anachronistic image (similar to Trinitarian claims about what NT authors were thinking, tbh!).
You have ***1*** corroborating verse in another work by (most likely) another author, standing against verse after verse after verse which distinguishes Jesus from 'the Word' throughout the NT, *including* the Fourth Gospel itself.
Rev. 19:13 is a fig-leaf over the embarrassing mountain of data you have to explain away.
@aslaveofJEHOVAH@AbaddonSpeaks The author of Revelation has already distinguished the Word from Jesus in his book, starting with the second verse. It is applied as *a name* here, *because of* that distinction.
@AbaddonSpeaks The manuscripts arguments are not at all clear, which is why this is considered a major textual variant. If your #1 reason for saying the Unitarian thesis was never convincing to you is a major textual variant, that to me itself doesn't seem that convincing.
@Spiritt_Truth@JohnPiper 'Ego eimi' (what Jesus says here in the Greek) doesn't mean 'God' in the Greek OT, but even if we were to grant that bizarre view, that's also not grammatical:
"Before Abraham was, God."
Tired of mini-Heisers yipping at you in the comments?
Start with this introduction to the Two Powers heresy by @RestitutioSF .
Video linked below. π
@NastyBombaz Romans 9:5 is grammatically ambiguous. Given the context, the standard Trinitarian interpretation is almost certainly wrong. Indeed, many Trinitarian translations don't follow the standard one.
Here's a better translation:
https://t.co/47t8UnZPAw