But there may be unity among these separate denominations, even where there cannot be a consolidated ecclesiastical government; just as our division into families, districts, and states, does not prevent our national union as a republic.
—Smyth, Ecclesiastical Republicanism
Christian unity, therefore, is to be found not in any uniformity of outward order, or subjection to any external authority, but in the participation of 'the one spirit,' of 'the one baptism,' by which all are initiated into it, and of 'the one faith.'
There must, of necessity, be local and national divisions, and parties. While the family of man is locally divided, there must be 'different provincial and local churches.' There cannot, therefore, be visible union.
Q. 244. Who are required explicitly to adopt and promise obedience to the standards of the church?
A. Bishops, licentiates, elders, and deacons.
—Thomas Smyth
@bluegrasspresby@IanBurkePerry@redeemed_zoomer@james_d_baird You're suggesting no one, until the first great awakening, thought that doctrine mattered in determining if a church was a true church? Church fathers, Reformers, Westminster divines, etc. would disagree.
this would make Francis Makemie a schismatic
the father of the PCUSA b/c founder of its first presbytery in 1706
hence, if it’s illicit to erect new jurisdictions where one already exists, then the PCUSA itself is schismatic
@CalRumRedivivus I would also point to 2:15 where the mandate is given. It is given to Adam. Even if someone wants to see Eve as a war-ally, an ally aids in the original mission. In other words, the ally is ordered toward the primary party.
@ehenes@Cripletriple3@jamesfcubie TIL the validity of PCUSA sacraments rests on the invitation of an Episcopalian. And you said their ecclesiology was underdeveloped!