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Eric Ries (@ericries) is the author of The Lean Startup, the NYT bestseller that became a playbook for a generation of founders. He's also the founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange and has a new book out called Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great.
In this episode of Main Function, Eric sat down with YC's @garrytan to talk about why so many founders lose control of the companies they build, and what they can do to stop it.
00:47 β The Professor's Wake-Up Call
03:43 β A Wake, Not a Party
05:12 β Shareholder Primacy Explained
08:20 β The Jeff Lawson / Twilio Story
10:27 β When You Fire the Founder
12:01 β The Legend of Sol Price
15:38 β Costco's Secret Origin
18:33 β Mission-Controlled Companies
19:40 β Finding the Right Board
22:26 β Just Become a PBC
23:40 β Who Invented Shareholder Primacy?
27:08 β It's Not Even a Law
30:28 β The Builder's Intuition
34:47 β Novo Nordisk & the $600B Bet
39:47 β Industrial Foundations Outperform
42:08 β The Problem With VC Fund Structure
43:05 β Dual Class Isn't Enough
44:54 β Building Something That Outlives You
45:03 β Anthropic's Governance Story
TONIGHT! My bookstore in Downtown San Francisco is hosting @ericries FIRST Bay Area book launch for his new book INCORRUPTIBLE (a full WEEK before it comes out!!) https://t.co/zAuuR00V0t WHY should you care?
"A lot of people liked the Lean Startup, but no one ever said it made them cry."
In 16 days, @EricRies's new book Incorruptible comes out.
It's about why you can taste it when your favorite restaurant gets bought by a PE firm, why even Steve Jobs got fired from Apple, and why over 80% of founders get fired within 3 years of taking their company public.
In our real-talk conversation, we discuss:
πΈ "Financial gravity": the force that predictably pushes successful companies into mediocrity
πΈ The Groupon email death spiral every public company eventually runs
πΈ "It is always too early to protect your company. Until it's too late."
πΈ The "governance fortress" Anthropic, Costco, and Patagonia all haveβand your company probably doesn't
πΈ Three things founders can do this week to protect their company long-term.
Listen now π
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