@RoundsR@ProfDBernstein SPLC is being attacked by a revanchist government for asking people to join evil groups and report back what they find. Same as hosing advocates using testers to try to rent apartments in Trump buildings.
@RychardeM@dr_balbin They took dead bodies back to Gaza as war trophies. Paraded through the streets. Raped women to death, and raped the bodies . Strangled children. Nothing was too vile. Why would you trust them?
Even Arab leaders admit it.
Everyone is sharing the Bill Clinton clip where he describes how Yasser Arafat rejected a generous peace offer at Camp David that would have given the Palestinians a state on 96 percent of the West Bank, land swaps, and a capital in East Jerusalem. Clinton says Arafat lied to him and that the Palestinian leadership never actually wanted a two-state solution. They wanted to destroy Israel. Itโs a video often shared by people like @VividProwess, and itโs an important one for people to see.
Of course, critics immediately dismiss it. They claim Clinton is biased or heโs pro-Israel. Theyโll tell you that you cannot trust the American perspective.
Ok, so let us set that aside.
Now watch this.
In this powerful interview, former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a major Arab leader who was directly involved in negotiations, says exactly the same thing from the Arab side. He talks about the Mena House Conference in Cairo as well as the Camp David negotiations of 1978. All failed because of the Palestinians repeatedly rejecting any offer. The Oslo accords were signed but because Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad were not involved, they derailed the accords and any chance for peace by initiating 4 years of terrorist suicide attacks in Israel. Then came the second Camp David negotiations in 2000 which Arafat agreed to, then rejected and instead initiated the Second Intifada.
Mubarak explains how the Palestinians refused to even participate in the Mena House conference of 1977. He describes repeated opportunities they were given, including a detailed document that called for Israeli withdrawal from the Samaria, Judea and Gaza, security arrangements during a transitional period, and other major concessions. The Israelis were willing to negotiate on difficult issues like who would control security. The Palestinians, according to Mubarak, kept saying no and wasting chance after chance.
He speaks with clear frustration about how for decades the Palestinian side has rejected peace initiatives and realistic compromises.
The video further shows footage from the PLO representative in 1977, as well as old footage of Egyptian president Sadat who was involved in the Mena House and first Camp David negotiations of 1978.
This perhaps is far more impactful than Clintonโs account because it is not a Western or Israeli voice. It is prominent Arab leaders who lived the negotiations, who represented the broader Arab world, and who had zero incentive to defend Israel.
When leaders from both sides of the table describe the same pattern of Palestinian rejectionism and violence, it becomes much harder to dismiss as bias.
The pattern is clear across decades and across different voicesโฆ generous offers, repeated refusals, and continued demands for everything while giving nothing in return.
This is not ancient history. It is the core reason the conflict continues today.
If you value the truth, please share.
@veladude88@DefiyantlyFree Meanwhile, Hezbollah was behind the Khobar Towers bombing, the Marine barracks bombing, and the attack on the U.S. embassy in Beirut, financed by Iran. Seems like we should support a country trying to suppress a sworn U.S. enemy.
@midlifeguy548@DefiyantlyFree TBF: The U.S. doesn't train all foreign fighter pilots in ALL the capabilities of their latest toys, I have been told. The exception is Israel, IIRC, and the UK.