Brian

Interested in interesting things

[Brian @themerl12]

@indicatorfn @grok So you're saying there's a chance

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@MJpapaTheCode @NutritionMadeS3 The cat thing is/was a hoax

[Brian @themerl12]

@ReidBtweenLine @jeremykauffman Grass fed is better because it has less SFAs and more PUFAs

[Brian @themerl12]

@MichelleHurnRD @KenDBerryMD @KetoCarnivore @Lone_Star_Keto @TempleDietitian @REV_Insulin_Res If higher LDL & ApoB can increase inflammation, and certain SFAs can increase both, and much of the observational evidence points to higher risk of an event, then I think it's reasonable to argue the evidence points in the same direction.

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere More red meat in place of most standard diets = more whole food = positive outcomes.

I would want to see more on its effect on CVD risk relative to other food (elevating ApoB & LDL). RCTs show replacing SFAs with PUFAs and MUFAs lowers these risk factors.

Does this address?

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere Also, how can we examine or show that not all foods that raise LDL/ApoB contribute to CVD risk? Is this seen across the data we have?

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere Totally agree not all SFS are created equal. But those that have been independently shown to raise ApoB seem to be pretty convincing to me. It's just one risk factor, but one we can control

Olive oil has been shown in many RCTs to lower LDL. I don't think it raises it

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere @Health1576584 You have to admit it was a bit of a strawman!

[Brian @themerl12]

@ketogrillbakery @maxlugavere Ah okay, right on then.

[Brian @themerl12]

@ketogrillbakery @maxlugavere Well, not sure of your point here.

High glucose over time is not healthy, it means our insulin isn't working. Just like high LDL over time is generally considered high risk. The longer the exposure, the higher the risk.

Difference is acute spikes vs chronic

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere @Health1576584 That's because of the MUFA and PUFA levels in olive oil, which have been independently shown to lower LDL, as another mentioned.

[Brian @themerl12]

@maxlugavere Question on your sarcasm- what is your take on ApoB and its relationship to cardiac events? Certain saturated fats appear to increase levels, just like LDL-C. Seems to me it's a better predictor vs LDL (however it is a correlate).

[Brian @themerl12]

@MarkBski @imMagnusAndreas It does not claim "equally nutritious" or even "same metabolic effect" . The same science that supports CICO also supports the thermogenic effect of food. Give it some thought or give it up.

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@Holmes1618 @PeterAttiaMD It's not a failed experiment, it was designed this way. I don't think protein was matched either. They weren't comparing isolated variables, rather the outcome of each diet as typically consumed.

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@kcisney @dikercarnivore @SBakerMD @anthony_chaffee Just look at who he tagged 😂

[Brian @themerl12]

@dikercarnivore @SBakerMD @anthony_chaffee Ah yes, that's the variable

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@aCarnivoreDiet @MyNutritionSci Actually weight gain is associated with overconsumption. Replace those carb calories with fat calories and you get the same results.

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@PlantBasedLift1 @shelly_187 💯

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@REV_Insulin_Res There's nothing on this list that challenges or contradicts CICO, unfortunately.

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@AnnPilotBSN @LDLSkeptic @SBakerMD @carnivorechick1 @KetoCarnivore @KenDBerryMD Conflicting information is good, he should continue to ask questions. Definitely not just follow a low carb guru on YouTube.
@NutritionDanny and his podcast (Sigma Nutrition) is a great start. Tons of topics and episodes out there.