Do Better

Agnostic. Ex-Mormon.
LDS Critic, but I also encourage civil discourse.
Trying to do and be better everyday.
(Formerly went by 'Mormons Can Do Better')

[Do Better @DoBetter_]

Any LDS members that use the phrase "you can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone"...
Please realize you are using the same playbook that JWs use to try to discount former members that become critics.

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@MormonsDoBetter @stackerco JWs use phrases like “mentally diseased” or “they just can’t let it go” to discredit ex-members. The message is always the same: if you speak out, you’re the problem.

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman I am challenging your post that set up a false trichotomy and implied circular reasoning. Can you think up an option D or even E that is missing from your original reply?

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman Countering judgemental, holier than thou Mormons is the perfect debate for a non-believing exmo.😀

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman James 1:5 doesn't talk about additional scripture.

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman I do "toss out the Bible" so to speak. Meaning, I don't accept it as scripture or the word of God.

And there may be millions that claim to receive revelation, but it is contradictory and unreliable.

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman Oh come on. It was very heavily coded about Moroni's promise. You were responding to post that the BoM is not the word of God, and you mentioned desire to receive additional scripture.
Either way, your questions seemed to imply circular reasoning similar to Moroni's promise.

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman Well, my position is independent of the OP, and your judgemental assessment of him...
but no, I don't believe that anymore. I tried many times in the past with the faith, desire, and humility you talk of, and God didn't answer.

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@cryptocubed @JasontheLayman Are you being serious or trolling? I can't exactly tell.
Have you had many previous discussions w/ this guy or just making blanket unfounded assumptions?
Your automatic blame against anyone that dares not accept the Book of Mormon, is telling, and the reasoning seems circular.

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@surskitmaxxing @daxiel1992 @daxiel1992, imo your examples do not support your claim.
The first one has a criticism of an LDS member's post, and asks how many people agree with it. That's not being uninformed on LDS doctrine.
And just because you disagree with the last one doesn't make it uninformed either.

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@daxiel1992 @surskitmaxxing Please provide at least one example where you think he is uninformed and doesn't understand LDS doctrines.

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@daxiel1992 @surskitmaxxing I was going off your phrasing of "uninformed opinions on our church". He comments about a lot topics related to the church, not just doctrine. But either way, missionaries are supposed to teach the doctrine so obviously they should be informed enough to share opinions on X.

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@daxiel1992 @surskitmaxxing You realize he's a returned missionary, right? If LDS members are going to discount their own returned missionaries as having uninformed opinions on the church the moment they turn critical, then they're just maintaining a bubble that equates being informed with toeing the line.

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@LyfeInMotion @surskitmaxxing No one is saying that grown kids are the parents' property, or that the parents can tell them what to do. The point is that it is awful for kids to exclude parents from their wedding simply over religious differences, especially if they say it is the parents fault, as in the OP.

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@LyfeInMotion @surskitmaxxing Do you have kids? Would you seriously be OK if they joined another religion and said you couldn't attend their wedding unless you joined their religion and practiced it faithfully for at least a year? Then they had the gall to say "no one is stopping you".

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@RavnReborn At first I thought you might be saying Rajah blocked you. But are you saying @DavidJohnButler blocked you?

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@FHE_Dad @jkimballcook @Utah_Cowboys It is clearly implied that any gathering beyond a "family gathering", even an open house, would distract from the sacred nature of a mission call. Open houses are included on the list of what not to do.

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@surskitmaxxing I'm always amazed how some people apparently can't think about how they'd feel if the situation was reversed. Imagine you're a Mormon parent and your kid joins some other religion and excludes you from their wedding and says it is your fault because you didn't join too.

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@DustinDavis @stackerco @RandomLDS How ironic. That is actually the type of thing a flat-earther would say.

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@raulofmustachio @GoWithJordan_ It is a double standard though, right?

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@stretchyWombat @BGMacarthur @EvidenceOfFaith @PastorNinja @ApologiaStudios ...He just wants to harm what he views as incorrect or blasphemous views of God.

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@stretchyWombat @BGMacarthur @EvidenceOfFaith @PastorNinja @ApologiaStudios How do you figure that? Honestly, this is a problem I have with many LDS members. They often seem to equate anything critical of the LDS church or prophets as critical of God or Jesus. The guy in the video obviously wants people to have faith in God.
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